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Revision as of 09:32, 14 July 2016 by wikipedia>DePiep ("title=" parameter: relevance?: headache developing)

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List of placeholder images

Template:Ping. I'm not convinced by this edit. This list is intended to be a complete alphabetical list of placeholder images, so that templates can ask the module to suppress display of placeholders. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Image is needed male.svg was already in the list further up anyway, so I've undone that change. -- WOSlinker (talk) 07:43, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Imagemap support

This module needs to be updated to support "imagemap", per the example at The Doctor (Doctor Who) to remove any extraneous markup. There is only one image used (File:Versions of the Doctor.jpg), but multiple different links over the one image. A template or module should reflect all possible usages of it; even though this is only one such case, there may be other cases of this on Wikipedia. I'd do it myself in the sandbox, but I'm not entirely familiar with this module. Alex|The|Whovian? 23:59, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

This still needs fixing. Alex|The|Whovian? 13:22, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
This should now be fixed. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

"title=" parameter: relevance?

How relevant is it to support the |title= parameter, especially next to the |alt= parameter? (i.e., the css-tiles a.k.a. mousehover-text; |alt=-value is used when missing).

I get the 'css-title' angle, but not in WP:EIS and not in WP:FILE we have an option for that. So when adding a plain file to an article (outside of infobox), the option 'css-title' is not available. My question starts from {{Chembox}}, which has 400+ parameters. I'd like to simplify this list, eg by removing this title parameter (pushing the alt parameter). -DePiep (talk) 19:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

There is an archived posting at Module talk:InfoboxImage/Archive 1#Alt text versus title text which discusses the differences. Also, the text assigned to the |title= parameter is placed into the normal image syntax (referred to as Caption at WP:EIS), so:
{{#invoke:InfoboxImage|InfoboxImage|image=Example.png|alt=Alt text|title=Title text}}
will output the following (which could be placed into an article, inside or outside an infobox):
[[File:Example.png|frameless|alt=Alt text|Title text]].
An example of using both fields (with "thumb" instead of "frameless") can be found at WP:FILE#Using files. -- Zyxw (talk) 04:03, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Template:U thanks, my question solved. So in my case, parameter title is redundant to parameter caption. (btw, mistake in my OP: 'title' in InfoboxImage is not the same as css-title in a tag like <span title="css-title example">. Glad it did not distract you). -DePiep (talk) 05:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Glad that helped. I assume that "Caption" was used in WP:EIS because it is displayed as a caption when using "thumb". However, "title" more accurately describes it when using "frameless", because if you look at the generated HTML it is used as a title attribute in the anchor tag that surrounds the image tag: <a href="/wiki/File:Example.png" class="image" title="Title text"><img alt="Alt text" src= ... -- Zyxw (talk) 06:28, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Sorry, this is getting into a headache.
First of all, WP:EIS shows the horror of interacting parameters, thereby changing their semantics. Like this: "If the type is 'frameless', the caption value moves & changes into title (mousehover) text" (I conclude after studying the doc). No end editor should be loaded with this illogic. No software encoder should allow such change of meaning & usage.
Next, this Module:InfoboxImage adds to these parameter mixups by suggesting |title= replaces [[File:|...|Caption text]] (see this /doc section, first paragraph saying [[File:..|{{{TitleText}}}]] -- the position where WP:EIS says Caption text is expected). There is no gain in confusing those two concepts in this module either.
To support my point, I quote from your 2014 link by Template:U: "To give a specific example, MediaViewer displays title text as the image caption; ..." (ie, another mixup variant, this time by MediaViewer). Also, you (Zyxw) wrote above: "Also, the text assigned to the |title= parameter is placed into the normal image syntax (referred to as Caption at WP:EIS)". This 'title' is named 'Caption' in WP:EIS?
Now there is no use in explaining the 'logic' behind this once more. I'd prever we don't change parameter semantics. And this module should not deviate from [[File:...]] documentation (itself to be improved).
As for understanding this module, I can say: Module:InfoboxImage does not have the concept or option of a Caption (meaning: text below an image). Such text is to be entered in the {{Infobox}} template using separate |caption=Caption text, next to (not inside) |image={{#invoke:InfoboxImage|...}}.
On the other hand, if one enters |image= directly by [[File:..]], the caption option is available in the File:-settings.
-DePiep (talk) 09:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)